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Cllr  Lynne  Hale
Cllr  Yvette  Hopley
Cllr  Tim  Pollard

Drain Cover - Addington Road
22/05/2020 14:59:00......Posted by Yvette Hopley


I am pleased to report that the extremely noisy drain cover on the Addington Road just before Sanderstead Plantation will be fixed this week.  Residents I am sure will not miss the dreadful din as heavy traffic passes along this route

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Bins overflowing in the Rec
01/08/2020 21:44:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard


A number of times since lockdown we have reported overflowing bins in one or another of our local parks and open spaces. The standard answer we get is that this is an inevitable consequence of Covid-19. I could accept this in March and April, when the council was franticaly redeploying people from here to there to keep the most important services going. However, I do now have to wonder how legitimate this argument is four months on.

This week a concerned resident has asked the council to intervene over the mess left in the Rec on a Thursday nght when the pizza van comes. This is a completely forecastable event, so I have written to officers asking them to arrange a Friday morning clear up each week.



Bus diversions and road resurfacing
01/08/2020 21:31:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

As ward councillors we have been sent a copy of advance notice of temporary diversions for bus routes 403 and 412 in the South Croydon area for the next two Sundays, and for route 412 in the Sanderstead/ Riddlesdown/ Purley area between Monday 24 and Wednesday 26 August.

403 and 412 – Sunday 2 August, and again on Sunday 9 August, 08:00 to 16:30

Contractors will be working at Selsdon Road up to the junction with Sussex Road on utility connections to nearby properties. To facilitate this work Selsdon Road will be closed to all traffic and buses will take the following diverted routes:

Route 403 towards Warlingham: from Park Lane, left Coombe Road, right South Park Hill Road, left Croham Road, ahead Croham Valley Road, bear right Farley Road, right Addington Road, left at roundabout – first exit Limpsfield Road to normal line of route

Route 403 towards West Croydon: from Limpsfield Road, right at roundabout – third exit Addington Road, left Farley Road, bear left Croham Valley Road, ahead Croham Road, right South Park Hill Road, left Coombe Lane, right Park Lane to normal line of route

Route 412 towards Purley: from Croydon High Street, left Coombe Road, right South Park Hill Road, left Croham Road, ahead Croham Valley Road, bear right Farley Road, ahead Old Farleigh Road to normal line of route

Route 412 towards West Croydon: from Addington Road at Selsdon crossroads, left Farley Road bear left Croham Valley Road, ahead Croham Road, right South Park Hill Road, left Coombe Lane, right Park Lane to normal line of route

We appreciate these diversion routes are lengthy. Unfortunately we are not able to provide single deck vehicles to cover more of the route on these Sundays. To reduce disruption, multiple contractors are working collaboratively to complete as much work as possible while the road is closed. This will reduce the need for further road closures. They will also work over two Sundays so we can maintain bus services for part of the weekend.

412 – Monday 24 to Wednesday 26 August at night  20:00 to 05:00

The London Borough of Croydon is resurfacing the road at Mitchley Avenue between the hours of 20:00 and 05:00. To facilitate this work Mitchley Avenue will be closed to all traffic and bus route 412 will be diverted as follows:

Route 412 towards West Croydon: from Godstone Road at Downs Court Road, ahead Godstone Road, left at roundabout second exit Hillbury Road, right Westhall Road, ahead Hillbury Road, left The Green, left Limpsfield Road, left at roundabout (first exit) Mitchley Hill, right Rectory Park to normal line of route

Route 412 toward Purley: from Rectory Park left Mitchley Hill, right at roundabout second exit Limpsfield Road, right The Green, left Hillbury Road, ahead Westhall Road, left Hillbury Road, right at roundabout (third exit) Godstone Road to normal line of route

Look ahead

In addition to the above, we are planning to restart resurfacing work at Purley Cross, previously brought to a safe-stop in March as a response to the pandemic.

Work will restart from Sunday 23 August at night and will be coordinated with the resurfacing work at Mitchley Avenue.  We will write separately to residents, businesses and stakeholders in the Purley area with further information about this work in due course.



Overflowing bins in Sanderstead Rec
21/07/2020 10:04:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

I have had complaints about overflowing bins in Sanderstead Rec in recent weeks, so have raised questions about how the emptying schedule is being managed with council officers. Here is what they say:

The exceptional circumstances that COVID-19 has imposed onto the workforce have aggravated the pressure that grounds maintenance usually experiences in the spring/summer season. We are working with fewer resources than usual as some members of our team are in self-isolation and unfortunately the present restrictions imposed by the government are an impediment to hire extra staff.

As such, we had to readjust the service to mitigate the negative effects of the present situation to the best of our capacity. As a consequence of this some areas have been impacted and bins collection cycles have been increase although we still manage to attend every one of the 127 parks within the borough several times a week and Sanderstead rec bins are empty on alternative days.

Due to the latest restriction lifted by the government in junction with the benign weather the parks are extremely busy, especially during the weekend, this will create a backlog that requires time to be address and the park rangers are working hard to eliminate during their working hours.

Obviously we do have to recognise that C19 is making lots of areas of work more difficult, but I will keep checking up on this to ensure we don't get into a backlog situation again.



Xmas Tree on the Gruffy
10/07/2020 21:15:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


Sadly, the Xmas tree on the Gruffy has died.  This is the second attempt to plant a community tree for all to enjoy during the Xmas festivities.  The first one planted on the roundabout looked nothing like a Xmas tree so it was agreed to plant this one close to the pond so the electricity could be accessed for the lights.  It was a great event last year with Santa arriving to talk to the children and All Saints Church providing the choir.

I have been promised that the Xmas tree will be replaced in time for this year's festivities.  Something to look forward to.



Flooding in Audley Drive
01/07/2020 11:53:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard


I have had a couple of emails recently about surface water flooding in Audley Drive, which also accumulates down at the new development by Hamsey Green pond.

We did have significant flooding 10-ish years ago caused by surface water accumulating in the playing fields across the border in Tandridge. The ward team, lead on that project by Cllr Hale, lobbied Tandridge to put a large soaraway into one corner of the field with drainage feeds to it, which seemed to reduce the problem for a while. It seems likely that the cause is either across the border again or perhaps caused by blocked soakaways further up Kingswood Lane where the new developments are taking place. You often find that these sites generate a lot of clay soil which then gets washed into the drains and blocks everything up.

We need to get one of the council's drains officer out to look at this, so I have put in an urgent request for this.



Broken seat in The Gruffy
01/07/2020 11:52:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard


A resident has kindly let us know that one of the seats in The Gruffy has broken. We have asked council officers to either repair or replace.



Objections to the discharge of conditions on the awful Barrowsfield development
26/06/2020 08:38:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard


Cllr Lynne Hale has written a comprehensive objection to the application to discharge conditions on the dreadful Barrowsfield development, which our Labour council thinks is an appropriate structure to complement the adjoining Green Belt. Sadly this massive development has already been approved but there remain matters of detail to be resolved. Whilst sorting these out in a satisfactory way won't make the block any smaller or less incongruous, it will at least make some minor improvements to the lives of its own and neighbouring residents.

These are Cllr Hale's detailed comments:

Re: 20/02141/DISC | Discharge of conditions 3 (Architectural detailing), 4 (Building signage), 5 (Landscaping), 7 (Retaining walls), 8 (Children's playspace), 9 (Lighting), 10 (Screening), 14 (EVCP), 15 (Cycle store), 16 (Construction logistics plan), 20 (Protected and priority species), 21 (Construction environmental management plan), 25 (Remediation strategy), 26 (Remediation strategy verification report) and 30 (Piling) attached to planning permission 18/05157/FUL | 2-5 Barrowsfield South Croydon CR2 9BZ

I am writing to lodge my objection to the above application for the discharge of conditions attached to the planning consent for 18/05157/FUL – 2-5 Barrowsfield.

My reasons are as follows:

Condition 4

  • The change of name to Sanderstead Park and the proposed size and location of the signage are unacceptable: they will confuse visitors to Sanderstead Recreation Ground and misdirect people into Barrowsfield, a narrow driveway with very limited turning options.

Condition 5

  • The hedge to the eastern boundary of 1 Barrowsfield is a party hedge and provides a mature screen to allow privacy as well as habitat for local wildlife and birds. This hedge must retained. 
  • There are still unresolved issues around the boundary line so it’s too soon to sign off a condition around boundary treatment

Condition 7

  • The proposals as submitted are not acceptable. The retaining wall details show excavation works required to Barrowsfield which is a private driveway outside the ownership of the applicant. 
  • No details are provided of proposed works to make good the wearing surface to the roadway.
  • The line of the boundary wall is yet to be agreed.
  • The proposed boundary wall runs across land outside the ownership of the applicant and includes land which forms the right of way to Barrowsfield.
  • The proposed retaining wall and balustrade create a health and safety risk to residents and visitors to Barrowsfield; due to the proposed sunken pedestrian access and inadequate balustrade

Condition 8

Assurances were given at the Planning Committee meeting that planning officers would ensure any detailed proposals would meet or exceed Croydon Council requirements for external children’s play space in new residential developments. This submission fails on this really important condition due to:

  • Inadequate communal play space – nearly 40% below the minimum  required – this is completely unacceptable 
  • only a single piece of play equipment is proposed which is totally inadequate
  • the roof top area is isolated with no overlooking and no surveillance: there must be a serious concern over children’s safety and the potential for injury, abuse or bullying. 
  • Policy requires the area to be accessed by children and young adults independently. However, the proposal fails to meet the criteria and is inherently unsafe. Independent, unaccompanied access by children brings the real danger that a child may climb over the 1100 mm balustrade and risk injury or death by falling.
  • The developer must be required to meet policy obligations and provide a policy compliant play area of a high standard in a safe environment.

Condition 9

  • The information submitted is totally inadequate to allow planning officers to ensure the proposal ‘protects the visual and residential amenity of the locality’ as per the condition wording. 
  • Lack of information on light spillage into adjacent properties or Metropolitan Green Belt
  • The proposed floodlights are inappropriate, intrusive and non-domestic in scale and will be harmful to adjoining occupiers and existing wildlife

Condition 10

  • The proposed low level, open balustrade does not provide any privacy to the adjoining properties and does not safeguard the amenity or privacy of the occupants of the adjoining properties. 

Condition 16

  • The Construction Logistics Plan fails to recognise the busy use of the children’s playground at Sanderstead Recreation Ground which is immediately adjacent to the site; the CLP should confirm that safe access to this will be ensured at all times
  • Special care needs to be taken with the management of any dust arising from the site due to the location of the sheltered housing directly opposite where many of the elderly residents have health conditions, which would be aggravated by any increase in dust/air pollution arising from this site
  • CLP 3.6 Exact location of the cranes to be used need to be agreed with the local authority prior to commencement of any works
  • CLP 3.7 Details of the programme for co-ordinating the connection of services and sharing of excavations and traffic management proposals to be agreed with the local authority prior to the commencement of any works. Any closures or part closures of Limpsfield Road needs to be restricted to non-peak time/school drop off times
  • It is essential to keep Limpsfield Road open to traffic as much as possible – especially in view of any A22 Godstone Road closures
  • Information is required as to how any rat running through residential streets will be satisfactorily managed during any Limpsfield Road closure/part closure relating to the development works

Finally, regarding Informative Note 6: It is an offence under Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 to remove, damage or destroy the next of any wild bird while that nest is in use or being built. The buildings on site are likely to contain nesting birds between 1st March and 31st August inclusive. Nesting birds are present on the site in both buildings and the mature trees, shrubbery and hedgerows.

I would be grateful if my concerns could be fully taken into account when this application is being decided.



Cycling in Kings Wood
22/06/2020 15:37:00.......Posted by Tim Pollard

I have been lobbied recently by groups of local residents who are both opposed to and for the use of Kings Wood by cyclists. For mny years, whilst usage of the woods was relatively low, the council turned a Nelsonian blind-eye to cycling in this and other spaces. However, walkers have recently been complaining via a variety of forums about the large increase in cyclists using the paths as a result of lockdown.

I have asked the relevant council officers for the official position, which is pasted below:

The current park bylaws can be found here.

In section 1 it refers to the discretion given to cycling in ‘parks’ as long as it is not to the detriment of the site or the enjoyment of other users. 

Recent complaints from woodland visitors about the large number of cyclist in the wood – a Covid-19  related increase - prompted the temporary no cycling signs. 

We are fully aware that most cyclists using King’s Wood are responsible and the complaints are about a small number of cycle groups, but with no enforcement capacity it is hard to get the ‘responsible cycling’ message across.

Horse riding in the wood is not permitted, like elsewhere in the borough, horse riding is restricted to designated bridleways.

I can see both sides of this. Given the restrictions of movement we have all been subjected to, it is entirely understandable that parents want to use the woods as safe spaces to cycle with their chldren. But, conversely, it shouldn't be treated as a mountain biking course by groups of adults. 

Although officers say 'no cycling' signs have been posted, there is no sign of these on at least some of the entrances, so there are still many cyclists present. But please, if you are cycling in the woods, bear in mind that they are primarily for pedestrian use and you must keep your speed down around people, be considerate to pedestrians and preferably stick to paths which are wide and with good sight lines. 



5G Telecommunications Mast - Hamsey Green
05/06/2020 14:19:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


An extremely large and unattractive mast has appeared in Hamsey Green on the grass verge outside the shops.  Whilst we understood that the mast would be replaced to give 5G transmission I don't really think it was fully appreciated by residents the impact on the area.  As councillors we didn't receive any objections from residents when the application was posted over the siting.  Many more of these are to be replaced thoughout the borough. 

The full application consists of: Installation of a 20 metre multi-operator monopole supporting 12 no antenna apertures, together with the installation of 9 ground-based cabinets, following the removal of the existing 11.7m single-operator monopole and 4 cabinets. at: MBNL Telecomms Streetworks Mast, O/S 338-350 Limpsfield Road, South Croydon, CR2 9BX.

Coupled with this they have now installed some very large bollards which didn't appear on the plan.  I have checked with the planning department to see if this is permitted.

The whole place is looking a bit of a disaster zone since last week the burst water main outside the Panahar has led to the verge the other end being dug up and left in a bit of a state.

This is all very disappointing given that we recently had some lovely trees planted on the verge to improve the outlook for the shops.  Sadly, it is all looking like a bomb site.

I am in touch with officers to see what we can do to improve matters.





Millennium Bench - Wettern Tree Gardern - Sanderstead Junior School
05/06/2020 13:53:00.......Posted by Yvette Hopley


Some residents will remember the little Junior School in Purley Oaks Road - Sanderstead Junior School.  Sadly now a block of flats.  The children of the school donated a bench for the Millennium which is located in Wettern Tree Garden.  It is now in need of a little restoration by means of a coat of varnish to bring the wood back to its natural sheen.  The council have agreed to do this along with placing the memorial bench for Joy Gadsby by the hornbeam tree not too far from the monkey puzzle tree planted in her memory.  The cost of the bench in memory of Joy is being paid for from the Sanderstead Councillor's community budget.  Hopefully both will be ready for our summer to enjoy.



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Drain Cover - Addington Road
Broken Handrail on Sanderstead Hill
Neighbourhood Recycling Centres Closed
Litter bins on Sanderstead Rec
Red Gables 2 Beech Avenue, Sanderstead - Refused
Temporary Lights Limpsfield Rd/Orchard Rd
Poo bins in Kings Wood
Watch out for Coronavirus scams
Dumped mattresses
Coronavirus: getting help from your councillors
Site of the Old Good Companions - Lidl
Three way lights Wentworth Way
Riddlesdown School admissions criteria
Street trees
Leaf sweeping in Farm Fields
Christmas tree collections 'behind schedule'
The council needs to start again with its Local Plan update
Possible school 'school street' zone around Ridgeway School
Riddlesdown Station and Flats
Development on the Corner of West Hill and Sanderstead Hill
Disposing of Christmas trees post Xmas
St Edmund's Church - Riddlesdown
Cherry Trees and Litter Pick - Cherry Tree Green
Fire - 3 West Hill - New Flats
Cherry Trees for Cherry Tree Green
Christmas Light Switch On - The Gruffy - Saturday, 30 November 2019 - 4.30 pm
Hamsey Green Pond
Solar Powered Bollard - Court Hill/Brian Avenue
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